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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 22, 2009 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Pig's Last Great Show? 5-10-72

With all the talk about the commercially released German shows around here the last few days I decided it was time to go back to Europe and listen to a show that I hadn't heard. Amsterdam seemed like a place where this band might be excited about playing, no? As suggested in this review by Dr. F. the show is overlooked because of the monster show they did the next night (we did a thread about this once as i recall).

Reviewer: dr. flashback - - July 11, 2004
Subject: smokin in Amsterdam!
There's absolutely nothing wrong with this show - except that it's followed by a masterpiece on 5/11, and so has had to live in its shadow, unrecognized by many. Hot versions of Bertha, Loser and Mr. Charlie. And the He's Gone appears on Euro 72 - it's THE He's Gone folks! But the Other One is just fireworks from beginning to end. This one will curl your hair, steal your face and get you kind. Along with "Hundred Year Hall" 4/26, one of the best Other Ones from the tour. A great sounding SBD. If you like 5/11, you MUST have this show. Some of the Euro shows from April have cuts and missing songs. Get this one first,you won't be sorry! Nuff said.
Dr. Flashback ;-)

Well I am not sure it is a great sounding sbd, it sounds a little muddled to me but that could be my speakers. Regardless it's not a bad sound, just not as clear as others. What really struck me from the start was Pigpen. His organ is high in the mix and he and Keith sound really nice on Bertha. Pig also adds to MAMU and 4 of the songs in first set are Pig songs. Only one song in the second set, but it is my favorite original Pig tune, Two Souls.

Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Black Throated Wind, Loser, Next Time You See Me, El Paso, He's Gone, Chinatown Shuffle, Playing in the Band, Big Railroad Blues, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Big Boss Man, Greatest Story Ever Told, Casey Jones

Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One-> Me And Bobby McGee-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat, Beat It On Down The Line, Two Souls In Communion, Ramble On Rose, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia-> Not Fade Away-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> Not Fade Away

(can't find if there was an encore or not)


Pig only had 9 shows left after this one and he was essentially absent during the 6-17-72 show so really 8 evaluable shows. Might this have been the last great one for Blue Ron? I guess some might argue that without a Lovelight or Good Lovin' it couldn't be, but there was only one Lovelight and not a lot of Pig being the frontman by the end of this tour.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Dec 22, 2009 7:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pig's Last Great Show? 5-10-72

Pig's last great show? Well, 5-11-72 has a Caution, a Two Souls, and a Good Lovin', so it might have the better claim.
(5/24 has that Lovelight>Two Souls which is on Rockin' the Rhein, but in general by the London shows, Pigpen seems to be much less present in the second sets - back in April he'd been doing a Caution every other show. The other Europe Lovelights were on 4/26 and 5/7.)

Of course, for the "ultimate Pigpen show" you'd have to do a compilation from different years, since his big pieces changed from year to year....

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 22, 2009 7:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pig's Last Great Show? 5-10-72

True, although I was not only considering his songs but also his playing on other songs. I don't recall being able to hear much of him on 5-11 but I can't say I listened recently. I can hear him loud and clear on this one and he sounds good. I did notice when i was looking at those last shows in Europe that he really did disappear from the second set. I guess the stamina was gone.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Dec 22, 2009 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pig's Last Great Show? 5-10-72

Interesting question. I'm not sure if any of the 1972 shows represented Pigpen as well as 1971 did. My thought is that 8-26-71 was the last great Pigpen show. Of course I'm not saying these shows were better than the Pig shows from 1972, just that Pig really could take over in 1971 (4-13, 4-17, 8-6, 8-26)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 22, 2009 10:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pig's Last Great Show? 5-10-72

Yes and his repertoire in '71 was a bit larger as they dropped a bunch of Pig songs by 8-26 (H2H, King Bee and Alligator) and he only added Chinatown Shuffle and Two Souls for '72. I was thinking more on the lines like some talk about some of Jerry's performances in from '93-'95 where he shows a glimpse of what once was.

This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2009-12-22 18:09:00